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PokerGuru - 27.09.2007, 02:12
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LESSON: BLUFFING Part 2
Hello, my PC winners! (That includes you all!)
In our last lesson on bluffing, you learned how to spot a bluffer at the table and how not to give yourself away when you bluff. You learned how often to bluff, when to bluff, how to plan your bluff, and how to carry it off.
So now, let's assume you have just completed your bluff successfully. Once you pulled your bluff, it was such a change in the way you had been playing for an hour or so that you now have your opponents just where you want them: thoroughly confused and not knowing WHAT to expect you to do!
At that point, if they don't leave the table, you learn something important about those who stay: They are not poker educated.....so you have found your perfect table!
For the rest of the night, keep changing your strategy, but never more often than a half hour between changes. You get them thinking you always play a certain way, such as usually calling but never raising unless you have a monster hand, and then BANG! You raise and re-raise big enough that it scares you just a little bit and scares THEM enough to make them toss away their cards as if they were burning their hands!
Remember how to measure how much to raise: When it begins to scare you just a little bit, that is the right amount! That's why poker is hard work if played right.....it is an emotional roller coaster, and mental energy spent always wears you out more than physical energy. So if people think you are playing, they don't know poker. That is, if you are playing to win, and at this point I am assuming you definitely ARE! Because if you have been with me for awhile, you know you are capable of consistently winning more than you lose! That is how you make a living "playing" poker.
Remember new players are constantly coming and going at the table. The newcomers to the table know only what they have seen you doing since their arrival. They will be thinking that is how you always play. They are thinking they have your number. Until you change up again and then WHAM! Their stacks become YOUR stack! There is no better play than a surprise play!
I never bluff more than four or five times in any one night.....and then only when the five rules I gave you in the last lesson are all set up in place, and you know the time is right.
Let me once again remind you of how to measure exactly how much to raise for a bluff: Just the right amount to raise a tiny fear factor in you. The fear factor is your insurance for winning. And if you have read every book ever written on poker, I'll bet you have never heard of my "fear factor", but it works almost every time.
Of course, no policy is perfect and perfection is not what we are expecting. It is just what we are striving for, my PCers!!!!!!!
Until next lesson, I remain
Your PokerGuru
char1984 - 27.09.2007, 19:55
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Great lesson poker Guru.I think the most irratating feeling is when they bluff and then show...I fell into it a few times to call big and then lo and behold they then have something. grrrrrrr Im learning not to fall for it..
ALW111 - 27.09.2007, 20:24
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My Poker Guru
I don't think that bluffing could ever be learned at the playmoney tables.
Nor with any degree of accuracy at the lower limit tables.
You could never consider trying out your bluffing techniques at the higher limit tables.
And you can't practice on robots because robots can neither spot, or perform this human skill.
In fact, there is no window of opportunity to master this skill.
Unless you are a Poker Crusher, with a very generous Poker Guru.
Thank You
Alan
PokerGuru - 27.09.2007, 23:05
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LOL, ALW!
For a minute there, you had me worrying about you.
YOU GOT ME! 
Hope you learned a lot from the combination of both parts of the lesson on the fine art of bluffing!
It really is a difficult thing to learn. But you absolutely have to do it once in a great while, tho not nearly as often as most players (bad players) do!
Keep the faith and the good humor!
Your Guru
ALW111 - 28.09.2007, 00:30
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Thank you Poker Guru
I did learn a lot from these lessons.
And I will continue to do so, for as long as I have eyes to read them with.
Because I think they should be read, and re-read, as often as one can.
They are the perfect size and they're not overloaded with to much information.
They are also very easy to understand, which makes them all the more digestable.
It's as though you are speaking to youing children, and it's wonderful.
Alan
PokerGuru - 28.09.2007, 09:22
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Dear ALW,
I certainly do not mean to imply that I consider my scholars any less than college students!
I'm afratd we have finally reached one point on which we disagree, which is not a bad thing since we are both human.
But you have given me reason to stop and think and I have decided I owe my PCers an explanation of my philosophy on communication. I feel very strongly about it and am glad you have given me an excuse to sound off about it.
The most simple and shortest way I can explain it is this way:
The most effective communication on any level is completely free of any attempt by the communicator to impress anyone by making the subject seem more difficult or complex than it really is just to show off their vocabulary or knowledge. In addition, the only purpose of communication is to be understood.
I must never forget that those to whom I write at PC are from many different countries worldwide. English is a second language for several of my members, some of them just beginning to learn it. Our forum is an international one, of which I am very proud. As such, I feel it is my responsibility to make my lessons easily understandable to every member, no matter their national language.
In looking over our memberlist, I am convinced that any member who joins and stays and participates, is a genuine person of superior intelligence! So I would never ever speak to any of my members as children.
I simply want my lessons to be so easy to learn and master that they become second nature and easily remembered at the tables by every one of my scholars who really do want to learn to be excellent poker players. Not just good, but excellent!
So, my dear friend, if you consider my lessons to be easy to understand, then I feel very happy that I have met my goal and fulfilled my responsibility.
And if you understand what I have just explained, then I am even happier!
Thank you, ALW, for spurring me to explain this important point.
Your ever-lovin' and ever-caring Guru
ALW111 - 28.09.2007, 21:26
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My Poker Guru,
I honestly don't know what to say. It took me a very long time to write you that post, and I put a great deal of thought and consideration into every line. Not to mention the high regard, affection and gratitute that I had for you throughout the whole time I was writing. Yet you missed all this completely, and instead picked upon things that have never, or would ever cross my mind in a million years. I'm not going to defend myself against what you thought I was implying, because I am not guilty.
I would however like to offer you my most sincere apologies, not for the words I wrote, only for the way they made you feel.
My only hope from all of this, is that everyone at Poker-Crush, especially yourself my Poker Guru, are in no doubt whatsoever, how highly regarded, and greatly respected you all are, by me
Your friend & loyal member Alan.
Poppy - 29.09.2007, 07:14
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PokerGuru wrote: ›
I must never forget that those to whom I write at PC are from many different countries worldwide. English is a second language for several of my members, some of them just beginning to learn it. Our forum is an international one, of which I am very proud. As such, I feel it is my responsibility to make my lessons easily understandable to every member, no matter their national language.
My dear Poker Guru and ALW ...
I would just like to write quick comment here about this topic ...
Poker Guru -
I appriciate your efford to write easy-to-read lessons and posts as I am one of those who's native isn't English.
You do a wonderful job! Thank you
ALW -
I did read your post and knowing you - how you are I know exactly where you are coming from. Your post was loving and written with highest respect
Have a great weekend!
PokerGuru - 29.09.2007, 14:43
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My dear friend and top scholar ALW!
Now I have made myself misunderstood after all my effort not to be misunderstood!
I know exactly how you feel toward me and all PCers, ALW, and is all VERY good, so good that you are one of my greatest points of pride!!!!!!
I am so sorry I led you to misunderstand my reply! I KNOW you hold all PCers in highest esteem as I hold you!
I just wanted to take the opportunity to explain why I write as I do, CERTAINLY NEVER TO CRITISIZE OR BE UNHAPPY WITH MY DEAR STAR MEMBER, ALW!!!!!!
Forgive me, please, for failing after all, in making myself understood. Some days I am just plain clumsy with words!
Your friend, loyal forever,
Your Guru
ALW111 - 30.09.2007, 05:11
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Thank you Sir,
I feel I've ruined what was a very important lesson. I understand your sensitivity towards my post, but honestly, I was only refferring to your protective and caring nature, and the way you look after each and everyone of us, which is highly present in all your lessons.
The way you make each of your lessons accessable to all is such a welcome change from the same old text, retold in the same old way with a few different words here and there. I appreciate the dedication you give to your teaching of us all, your lessons must have to be written, and sometimes rewritten, then finely tuned before you post them. You tell it different, and you tell it well my Poker Guru. As a scholar, I am more than satisfied from what I learn from each and every lesson, and very, very grateful to have them, and you.
Alan
your
ALW111 - 30.09.2007, 05:53
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May I also add to my post above,
That I have also learned a lot from other scholars here at Poker-Crush,
I have directed questions at you my Guru, that have been answered by my fellow members before you even had a chance to read them.
Below, is proof of how my game has improved since joining PC.
It isn't massive, but 1st is 1st in any language.
Thank you everyone
P.s. Thank you Marjo for your thoughtful post, and your kind words,
Alan
ALW111 - 30.09.2007, 06:36
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Sorry , I cant seem to post it here, its in the winners section
mojojds - 30.09.2007, 10:40
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BLUFFING LESSON ....READ AND UNDERSTOOD!!!
GURU AND ALW...
Just seems to be a little writing twister there ..with no bad reply ether way..and I understood all replies completely!!!
I also know that it is hard as HELL to bluff with them internet poker robots at the table.
Not human at the table..means I dont play at that table..Thats my rule!!
.SEE YOU HUMANS AT THE TABLES
Poppy - 30.09.2007, 14:32
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ALW111 wrote: ›
P.s. Thank you Marjo for your thoughtful post, and your kind words,
Alan
You are very welcome Alan
Marjo
ALW111 - 30.09.2007, 16:51
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Is that really true mojojds, if so, how can I tell.
Can they be bluffed/Do they ever bluff?
PokerGuru - 30.09.2007, 23:21
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Dear Top Scholars ALW and Mojo ,
First, ALW, thank you so much for your most gracious reply. I was sure we were merely our own victims of misunderstanding....and I am so glad that is true! Stumbled over my own words and fell, in my case.
I appreciate your compliments and confidence more than anyone could imagine.
I would also like to add that any teacher who doesn't learn an enormous amount from his studentts could not be, in my opinion, much of a teacher.
Mojo, so good to hear from you again! You are a perfect example of someone who doesn't say much, but when you do, it is well worth heeding!
I, as well as ALW, am very anxious to hear what you have to say on the topic of robots!
Loving care for you both, my friends,
Your Guru
mojojds - 01.10.2007, 05:46
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I TRIED AND TRIED AND TRIED TO BLUFF THEM ROBOTS
AND THEN
I FAILED I FAILED I FAILED AGAIN
It seems to me that them robots just know what u have in your hand and when u try and bluff they know and start bluffing you. Much easier to bluff the human lol
Thats been my experience with robots at the tables.
Good thinking at the tables everyone!!
PokerGuru - 04.10.2007, 06:10
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Dear Mojo,
I am intrigued! And I would bet others are as well.
You have touched on a subject about which I am fairly ignorant....not stupid, but ignorant. Ignorance can be cured.....stupidity cannot be.
Please help me out by being MY teacher!
How can we tell a robot from a real human? Dont be afraid to tell us which sites at which you have found robots. If you will let me know, without mentioning you, I will fire off an email to the manager.
Please help us out here, Mojo. This is important!
Thanking you in advance,
Your Guru
char1984 - 04.10.2007, 22:12
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Mojo I have wondered also in a couple sites I play if I also was playing robots...I have wandered around looking in some of the same rooms and see the same name in about 4 or 5 which this site only allows 3.I played against them out of curiosity and when you say nh they reply ty but if you strike conversation they dont speak back...They do seem to win every time and sometimes when you say something the little reply you do get dosent make sense.That is my exsperience of playing what I think are robots...
ALW111 - 04.10.2007, 23:57
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The plot thickens, and my mind boggles at the thought of robots that can spot and execute a bluff, and who are capable of conversation with humans, albeit limited to answering yes or no.
It's not impossible. There are many kids toys in the shops today, that don't cost the Earth, and are capable of similar tasks.
Where do they come from?
Do people build there own?
Is there a shop where I can buy one, ahem, I mean, where they sell them?
char1984 - 05.10.2007, 00:24
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I need one to
ALW111 - 05.10.2007, 02:39
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What would would you call it?
ALW111 - 05.10.2007, 02:40
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Jack?
char1984 - 05.10.2007, 03:01
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Botty
ALW111 - 05.10.2007, 03:29
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LOLOL
Very funny
PokerGuru - 05.10.2007, 04:13
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Well, hell, let's just ALL get one! ROFLMFBOOOOOOO!
The plot does indeed thicken, and your observations, Char, were uh, well, uh,.......fascinating!
I do NOT believe it is a widespread problem at all, BUT I want to know which poker site or sites would dare do such a thing!!!!! With proof, OFF POKER_CRUSH's approved list they go, without a single word of warning. I would not waste my breath uttering a single word to them again!
MOJO!!!!!!! Where arrrrrrrrrrre you??????????
Anybody else have any information? And let me warn you seriously: NO GUESSES or SUSPICIONS! Good evidence, qualifying as proof, is required before you make a post on this very serious topic! If I am going to toss a paying client out on his ear......well, there are legal ramifications.......and I want none of them coming back to haunt me!!!! I'm sure you understand me; you are all VERY intelligent people!
Anyone with good hard evidence of ANY wrongdoing, please PM me first, give me a chance to investigate thoroughly, and THEN we most definitely WILL take any warranted action! NOBODY gets by with pulling any funny business on my PCers!!!!!!!!!
Your very serious Guru
ALW111 - 05.10.2007, 12:27
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Thank you poker Guru,
I had problems with a site once, it took me 2 wks & over 10 e-mails before they even replied.
When they finally did, it was a waste of time, I just couldn't seem to make myself understood.
I'd deposited a few hundred pounds into that account over a 3-4 month period.
I was relieved when I finally won some of it back.
Only to find myself locked out of the site and unable to get to my winnings.
I was so angry, that it took ages to get over it.
It wasn't just the money I'd lost, It was more so the feeling of being cheated, it stayed with me for quite a while
So it is really good to know that we have someone lke you to help us if we ever have problems.
Alan
ALW111 - 05.10.2007, 22:06
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My Poker Guru,
In my post above, I don't mean that I would have expected you to go and get my money back for me.
Only that I could have sought your advice, and of course the advice of my fellow members, which may have resolved the matter.
Anyway, thank you.
Alan
PokerGuru - 07.10.2007, 03:57
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ALW, for that kind of money, and knowing your character, I MIGHT HAVE JUST DAMN WELL GONE AFTER YOUR MONEY BACK........IN PERSON, NOT ONLINE!!!!!
I am so sorry! That had to have a terrible effect on ANYONE! And a lingering one!
But you got right back on that horse and are playing again! All goes to prove: You just cannot keep a good man down!
Your Guru
ALW111 - 07.10.2007, 09:21
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Thank you sir,
Its great to know that if it happens again I can seek the advice of people who do care.
Another one of the many benefits of being a Poker Crusher.
Alan
floppydobad - 15.10.2007, 17:53
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ahh bluffing what a great topic i generally try to play a st8 forward approach when it comes to nl holdem so that way when i do decide to make a move my table image is of the solid tight player and have won many a pots with nothing in my hand but at the same time your lessons are very insightfull and great refreshers to me ! i just wish u would explain to people the variances in bluffs in a tournament setting as to a ring game because its a whole differnet pace as fixed limit to nl so many variances of the bluff and the 3 bet but i think people need to know the difference between a ring game bluff tourney bluff position bluffs and most importantly when not to bluff lol! But u r the guru and im the guppie swimming in a sea of sharks and bad alogarythems lol thanx again
royalblush - 16.10.2007, 06:33
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Hiya floppy!
I am royalblush here, regualr member for a long time AND I am RoyalCrush, one of the administrators at Casino-Crush! Just wanted you to know, in case any confusion should arise!
I was tickled to death to see you become a member here, as well as at CC! Sorry I am so late welcoming you! But you ARE welcome!
I have heard, floppy, that PokerGuru is due back tomorrow. I know he will be very glad to answer your questions and address your points -- once he recovers from the shock of two of our members facing critical life situations. He is a tre "Father Rooster" to us and we may be even a closer- to-one-another site than CC, since we are a smaller group. He is really going to be iupset, I'm afraid.
But he will spring back for the rest of us, like the true professional he is and I know he will love to respond to you.
So hang in there, floppy! I have a feeling he will respect your comments. He is awfully good about respecting us ALL. (If he doesn't, they don't stay long because there is always a good reason he doesn't. hehee)
Again, WELCOME!
royalblush
ALW111 - 16.10.2007, 08:06
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Hi floppydobad. Welcome to Poker-Crush. We are, like our big sister site, Casino-Crush, one big happy family.
Ready to help out in any way we can, to inform & advise & also, to take advice & learn from each other.
If you have the time, there are always monthly contests running with cash prizes, the lottery to build up your PC pts,
on the spot contests that are littered throughout the different forums, many other lessons from our Poker Guru, & much more.
I'm sure you'll be familiar with our site being a CC member, but if there's anything you need to know,
then just post your question, & if we can answer it, then it's gaurantee that someone will.
Enjoy your stay, and we hope to see more posts from you in the future.
There's plenty of harmless banter to be had with us all,
It's good to have you with us
Alan
floppydobad - 16.10.2007, 20:20
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ty ty ty guys and u know imma entering all the contests i love crush!
ALW111 - 17.10.2007, 05:13
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excellent, welcome aboard
TheFunk - 22.10.2007, 00:07
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Thanks guru for another invaluable lesson!
PokerGuru - 22.10.2007, 02:50
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Hiya Funk!
You are most wholeheartedly welcome!
I just hope you learned something you can put to use as quickly as you can master the guidelines!
Isn't it awful that we have to study and remember in order to learn anything worthwhile?
I appreciate your comment, Funk!
Your Guru
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